Richard proposed the following - Let's make waived players from a line up stay around for the remainder of the season. They can be picked up by any team, at any time, once they are off someone's line up. They shouldn't disappear after one week.
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We have looked at this various times before. The prevailing opinion then would be that it deters trading. We have even looked at expanding it to a full free agency wire. I am in pools that have full free agency and trading if allowed is almost non-existant.
The question that we have to look at is will this decrease trading and is that a bad thing if you are able to field a better team with a free pick up.
I guess I don't see how a waiver wire works in conjunction with scheduled waiver drafts.
It seems to me we should have one or the other, a revolving wire that has undrafted players and dropped players, or a waiver draft that accomplishes the same thing at a fixed date.
Personally I've always thought the waiver draft was a better solution.
With regards to Rob's comment: it means that trades will have to be just that to succeed, with less of a buccaneering tendency when a team is down on their RWs (or what have you.)
I could actually see this being very beneficial for the quality of trades done in the league; as well as the general scope of offers.
With regards to Cam's question as why have a permanent waiver wire, and a waiver draft: there will be players not drafted at the ED who will phenomenally exceed expectations every year. Because the total FUNHL roster size is much smaller than the combined size of the NHL and the AAA teams that also provide players, we need a way to capture "mid season surprises." That's what the waiver draft will let us continue to do.
(e.g. predict who the top 15 PIM players will be next year... that's an easier call to make half-way through the season.)
I would support this proposal, as Richard has it. The waiver wire keeps our toss-aways unless selected by someone else.
I would clarify that following the WD(s) the waiver wire would be empty.
So long as we are limited to our own discards - as opposed to the all-access pass Rob is referring to - I actually think we will see more trades, not less since the injured winger you are about to drop will be worth something in a month.
I like it and if we can pick up ANY player during the season (not just dropped players) then don't necessarily need any WD.
Otherwise, as Richard says you would still need at least one WD if the wire only includes waived players... so that GMs can pick up brand new players once or twice a year that were never drafted.
And if that is the case... I like Doug's idea that after the WD(s) then the waiver wire would start all over again.
In theory I am attracted to a waiver wire that might include all undrafted players but then the waiver draft becomes moot (other than to get teams to release players). This would seem contrary to the desire for more trading, more GM gatherings and (he says out of blatant self-interest) would be hell on the stats keeper.
Limited to only those players cast away by other GMs, this idea has a lot of merit.
I, for one, would preffer to have a rolling waiver wire.
This would open all hiden gems to everyone through out the year.
I am really at odds as to how this would hurt trades, having players like that available and all.
I would however miss the gathering of GMs.
I propose we hold one WD at the usual time around early November, then after that we move to a rolling waiver wire.
We can discuss formating of the rolling waiver wire in another post.
I have no issues with a continuous wavier wire for any player that has been drafted and dropped. You can keep their availability status for the entire year.
Can you use the wavier wire after our trade deadline?
With regards to Rob's question.
It depends what the point of the trade deadline is. There are good reasons to say "yes" or "no" to the waiver pool availability.
Richard.
I would suggest that the waiver wire operates exactly the same way up to the trade deadline - after that I presume it would be inactive.
The deadline IMO is a kind of 'stop all changes' date, the date at which what you have is what you have and you live or die with it.
I WOULD SUPPORT THIS IDEA. DRECK, OR PERCHANCE NON-DRECK LATER GETS DROPPED, THESE WAIVER WIRE PLAYERS ALL OF WHOM WERE DRAFTED AT THE ED STAY AVAILABLE UNTIL A WD OR THE TRADE DEADLINE...I CERTAINLY DO NOT THINK IT WILL HAMPER TRADING AND PRECHANCE BE A HELPFUL SYSTEM...THE STATSGOD, DOUG, WOULD NOT NEED TO ALTER HIS SPREADSHEET TOO ARDUOUSLY.
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